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Dear all

This thread is here for you to tell your success story where you have built a system and deployed it in your home, office, or are a value add reseller using PBX in a Flash as commercial enterprise.

By telling your success story, you may give people new to open source telephony, encouragement and confidence to seriously consider PiaF alongside the other more propriatary systems.

I'll start - here is a link to a system I installed some time ago.

http://www.concordiax.com/concordiaxweb/files/PBXInstallation.pdf


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Here's but 1 success story. Several months ago I did a commercial installation for a client on a customer provided Dell 6450, Raid 5 with 4 processors. Using customers existing Polycom 501's (30 of them). I used PBIAF, threw in an 801 board, did the programming and it just worked. The customer was extremely happy. Despite saving him thousands of dollars, what he really liked was his company logo on the phones (just a sales tip). Also as a note here, the customer has two entities on one system and needed to be able to answer the phones correctly which was easy with freePBX.
 

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I successfully UPGRADED!!!!! a Trixbox 2.2.something to PIAF 1.2 using the FreePBX Backup and restore module.

First, I manually copied /etc/asterisk and /var/lib/asterisk to another machine. I also took some screen shots, so if the restore failed, I had a way to manually recreate the server.

I manually updated FreePBX on the Trixbox to the latest version, 2.4.1.0 (I think). Then I ran a backup from FreePBX and copied the tarball to another machine. I then wiped the hard drive and loaded PIAF 1.2. I ran a backup on the empty machine, just to the get the directory on the drive, then I copied the original tarball into that directory. Finally, I ran a restore from FreePBX and we were taking calls again. The CDR was hosed up on the Trixbox before I started and I did lose the CDR records, but I have done this same procedure, in the past and saved the CDR also.

The customer's phones were down less than an hour.
 

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4 New systems

Since OTTS we now have 4 PIAF systems in place and more coming. We have now devoted our entire business on this wonderful distro. Thanks Tom, Ward and Joe for all of your help and support. Also, thanks to John M and Robert for your contributions to this forum.
Gary
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SOHO Success

I think our adoption of VOIP in general and PIAF in particular is interesting and illustrative. So here goes:

We are a small service company based in Hillsborough NC. We have a staff of technicians who work in the field, one full time person who answers the phone, schedules appointments etc., and then my business partner and I who rotate from the office to the field as needed. The office is always manned from 8:00 am to 4:00 pm and then as long after 4:00 as my partner or I can stand it!

Before


We started the company with a Bizfone 680 analog Key System, 4 POTS lines from Bellsouth, four 4-line Bizfone 3 Desksets and a fifth extension dedicated to outgoing fax. Incoming fax is handled by a fax to email gateway. Bellsouth provides Business DSL but we are almost at the limit of the distance requirement for ADSL from the remote. As a result, the bandwidth (particularly upstream) is very limited.

This system worked very well, with good voice quality and reliability, but not very feature rich. One of the annoying things that was missing is the ability to route incoming calls to external extensions (like our cell phones for instance). The Bizfone is capable of this function but only with the addition of expensive adjunct equipment. Like $700 on top of the already high cost of the original system.

Motivation for change

One day, our largest customer called up to complain that they couldn't reach us in the event of emergencies after hours (and sometimes during normal business hours as well). They were now an Angry Customer. The reason for this being that when we closed the doors at night, or when the admin had to run out for some reason and the rest of us were in the field, the phones would just ring away with nobody to answer them. Of course you could pick each line up individually and do a *72 to forward them, but this is was a) a pain in the rear and b) ineffective because only one endpoint can be specified for CO based call forwarding. If that endpoint is a cell phone that is out of range or off (like the two hours a night we sleep) then the result is the same as no forwarding. Also, it was really easy to forget to *73 each line whenever someone returned to the office.

When we got off the conference call with Angry Customer, it occurred to me that I could setup my Asterisk based PBX at home (which I had been playing with) to provide a dedicated emergency line. I went home and set it up and next morning, called Angry Customer and gave them the "Dedicated Emergency Line" number. This number was a DID provided by VOIPstreet over an IAX trunk. This trunk was routed to a ring group consisting of our office number, and the cell numbers of our admin, my business partner and myself. It worked flawlessly. We handled calls at night and on the weekend just like we were at the office. Angry Customer was impressed and went back to Happy Customer status.

Experimentation

The logical next step was to get the features available from Asterisk on all our phones. The aforementioned "Emergency Line" was running on an old IBM Thinkpad with trixbox. Not really adequate for our needs if we were going to implement Asterisk for the whole office. I had recently purchased components for three identical AMD based systems with small MATX cases. They were meant to replace my old home router and file server boxes with the third machine acting as a spare/testbed. When I tried to install trixbox on the spare, I had issues and went hunting for solutions. That's how I found Nerdvittles.com. Eventually I gave up on trixbox and loaded a distribution called EasyVoxBox, which at the time of this writing is still around I believe. It was OK and worked fine but I had started reading Nerdvittles and saw the announcement for PIAF. When it was released with so few problems (i.e. essentially none) I decided to try it. I've never looked back.

After

Currently, we run PIAF 1.2 (32 bit) in our office on the AMD based server mentioned above. The system has a Sempron 64 3400+ processor (Socket 754) with 2 gig of PC 3200 memory, a 120 Gig PATA Harddisk and a 52X CDROM. Our interface to the POTS lines provided by Bellsouth is via a Rhino R4FXO-EC analog card. The system sits on a gigabit managed LAN which is capable of a couple of different types of traffic shaping but I haven't turned that on yet. Our endpoints are four Grandstream GXP2000s and an HT286 connected to our FAX machine (outgoing only). We still have our "Emergency Line" provided by VOIPStreet via an IAX trunk.

Problems

Honestly, there were not many problems and none that I remember directly attributable to PIAF. We had a couple of issues with our Rhino card. It doesn't like the VIA chipset in the original motherboard we used, but found happiness with an nvidia based board. The GXP2000s were a compromise but are actually pretty good now that we have the right mix of firmware and Rhino driver options.

Conclusions

All in all though, it was a pretty simple setup and it all works great. I've upgraded a number of times with Tom's toolkit and beta tested the Kennesoft UI. Never a hiccup. The only outage we've had was the result of an electrical storm. The system is extremely flexible and easy to manage. I wish we had sprung for better phones though. The Aastra 57i hadn't been reviewed by Ward et. al at the time I bought the Grandstreams. But they're a pretty good value in the end. We really couldn't be more pleased. To my mind, that is the definition of success.

Dallas
 

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We used a PIAF server last night as a conference server during my Dundi presentation. We had 40 people in one conference room at one point. Audio was rock solid.
 

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Just a quick note re VMWare

We run VMWare ESX internally and Piaf 1.3 within that. (now)

With VMWare VMOTION I am able to migrate my internal production Piaf VMWare box from one ESX host to another without dropping a call!

So downtime for ram upgrades, ghosting etc etc is a non issue.

Also the call quality is excellent with no jitter or any other kind of issues with MOH or prompts.
 

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PIAF to the Rescue!!

Here is a twist for you.
First, the problem:
My company has a ShoreTel system in place, 48 extensions. They have 2 PRI's bonded together with dynamic channel allocation. 8 channels are dedicated to the phones, the rest to the internet. When we have more calls than 8 the system robs channels from the internet up to 23 channels max, and returns them as the call volume drops. This all works well.
Monday, a pole a few blocks from our office had the trransformer catch fire and the providers equipment was affected. We lost both internet and phones for several hours.
Much of our business is time critical. With no incomming phone calls and no email, we almost lost out on a chance to bid on a VERY large deal. (fortunatley the customer knew the LA branch number and after being unable to get ahold of us, called LA)
Anyway, now it is critical to management that this NEVER happen again.
The Solution:
Tuesday, I studied the issue and wrote a proposal.
Wednsday, I fired up a PIAF box, established a 10 channel SIP trunk group to the ShoreTel system, and got everything setup for intersystem routing, etc.
Wednsday, I am picking up a pay as you go service with 10 channels from a VOIP provider with a single DID and setting our Telco service for failover/Rollover to the VOIP DID.
I am then ordering a second internet circuit, 2meg x 2meg, to bring in the SIP trunks from the provider.
As soon as that is done, I will dual home the mail server so that we can get and send email via both internet providers.
The end result??
If the primary connection fails, phone service rolls over to the DID from the VOIP provider, rolls into PIAF, and cross trunks to the ShoreTel - AUTOMATICALLY!! Email switches to the secondary MX record and keeps right on rolling. One change in the firewall for the public NAT address and gateway and internet is back up and running.
THANKYOU Ward, Tom and gang for making this possible :)

Greg Keys
 

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Gee thanks but I think you should be taking credit for the reasoning behind it, a nice little piece of work! I already run 2 different ISP's and am looking at moving my evdo router out of my car (yes I know geeky) and integrate it into the pbx infrastructure.

I also have been thinking about adding a gsm modem to take advantage of a spare sim card I have. Surely something will work during the weather we get in Florida 8^) Of course there is always amateur radio with dstar

Tom
 

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You made my Grandma Cry!

Thank a lot PiaF team. You made my grandmother cry last night.

My wife and I are currently living in Germany and we've been using a Skype-In number so our friends and family can call us. For my wife it is important that the solution just works like a regular phone and so I had setup a Siemens M34 to interface with our DECT phone and it worked, mostly, for a few days, until the entire system needed to be restarted. For most of our family this solution works but my grandmother is living in a different area code and can't afford to call us as often as she would like.

I stumbled upon the PBX in a Flash project a few weeks ago and, after I found two old Grandstream GXP-2000 in the company junk closet (we are an internet startup - someone is always buying new toys), I installed PiaF 1.2 in a VMWare. I set up a vitelity DID, the callerid superfecta, the callerid creep detector, experimented with ring groups, routing, IVRs and was so impressed that I knew our Skype solution's days were numbered.

Last night I took the plunge, formatted the Skype system, and deployed PiaF 1.3. The install was so fast and painless. I copied the old configuration information into the new system. And, my new PBX was up and running in under and hour.

I had so much time left on my hands that I figured I might as well experiment. I followed another Nerd Vittles tutorial and created a few cell phone extensions for my family back in the states. I went to Vitelity and purchased another DID. I recorded a quick message, setup an IVR, and a new corresponding route. Thats when the fun started.

I called my grandmother and told her: "Grandma, we've got a new telephone number. Will you please call me right back at...". She was a little surprised when I told her that the number was now going to be a local call for her. The real surprise came when she called the number and heard, "Hi Grandma, welcome to your phone system. For Martin and Ashlee please press 1, for Rachel please press 2,...". By the time she pressed 1 and Asterisk was ringing our home ring group, she was in tears.

We talked for quite a while about our lives, the olympics, the hurricane, and everything else. This morning when I got up, I checked the call logs and saw that she had systematically called every single IVR point after we got off the phone.

I didn't deploy PiaF as a mission-critical business application yesterday--though that day will come for me, but I did what the open internet ideology is all about in my mind: I used the knowledge and experience others have gifted the community to create a solution that fit my situation.

Thanks Again PiaF Team, from the bottom of my heart!

Sincerely,
Martin Modahl
 

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Martin, You made me cry. What a great story to wake up to. Thanks for sharing it. :angelsad2:
 

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I have recently upgraded our system from Trixbox 2.2 via elastix to PBXIF 1.2 (upgraded to 1.3)

We recently moved offices where we had a Trixbox 2.2 system with 9 phones and ISDN 30 with 8 channels. We had mostly SNOM 320 phones on the old system.

When we moved to our new premises we wanted to cut down on our telecoms costs (we are a small computer company based in the Northwest of the UK). We have a large number of inbound calls so we looked at all the Asterisk Distro's we could find. I follow the Trixbox forumns and was getting disheartened at the way the project was going.

As we wanted queue management we decided to install the new Elastix 1.1 withthe queue module.

We kept our old Trixbox system as a failover just incase (glad we did).

At the new premises we only have 2 analogue lines as opposed to 3 analogue and ISDN30 (8channel) at the old premises.

On one line we have BT broadband (8mb down 512 up) and the other we have BeThere broadband (24mb down 2.5mb up) We currently get 8mb down and 446k up on the BT and get 17mb down and 1.7mb up on the Bethere.

We also invested in a Linksys 24port POE Gb switch and a APC1500 UPS to power it all.

We are using Magrathea and Sipgate for the incoming lines and we route outgoing calls via Voipdiscount and Magrathea.

After 3 weeks we reformated the Elastix server and replaced it with PBXIAF. he Elastix system did not work proper, the Call Centre module is buggy and there where numerous questions similar to the problems that I was having, unanswered on the forumn. On numerous occassions the calls 'stopped coming though Elastix' for no reason at all. The first I would know about it was when the analogue phones started to ring (I programed secondary and tertiary failover routes on the Magrathea lines).

All the problems disappeared once I installed PBXIAF and the analogue lines have not rang for 4 weeks now as there are no problems.

The phone server is an Asus Terminator T2 with a P4 2.8Ghz, 512Gb RAM and 160Gb Hard Disk.

We have 1 x SNOM 360, 6 x Snom 320's, 1 x Linksys 942, 2 x Counterpath Eyebeam softphones on laptops for remote users and 1 x Siemans Gigaset DECT phones.

I have just installed Queuemetrics on the system and am going to trial the new Snom Camrivox Outlook integration or screen pop (£20 per phone for a lifetime licence).
 

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TODAY I TOOK CONTROL OF MY VOIP.....
(well, really, I took as much control as I can get while still buying DIDs from others.)
I've been a happy VOIP user for 4 years, running on Vonage. Even got my son hooked up on Vonage while he was in the army stationed in Japan. But when the lawsuits loomed over Vonage's head I started looking for something else - and I found Nerdvittles. WOW! Being a kind of a gadget junkie to start with, and always looking for something interesting to do with my PCs. So I started with Trixbox from Ward's "build" and fumbled along. When PIAF came along I naturally followed.

I have two important successes that have made me love this VOIP/PIAF stuff.
1) When my grandson was diagnosed with a heart condition my daughter and her husband were stuck in hospital emergency rooms for hours at a time. Being about 500 miles from both our family and the other grandparents they had a very difficult time getting news out to us - since hospitals usually restrict the use of cell phones and dont allow long distance call from their phones - which only leaves (yuck!) pay phones. In just a few minutes time I was able to buy a DID local to the hospital and connect it to my PIAF, and set up an IVR that gave them access to a DISA. That way they could call us using a local number, or call through the DISA to call the other grandparents. Keeping informed really eases your mind when the grandkids are ill!

2) When I got tired of my wife continuing to ask me for phone numbers when calling our family and friends I finally decided to set up an IVR for her. So far, both of our kids home and cell numbers (as well as my cell number) have kept her happy. (When she asks for more I'll just add them.)

So far, the "Wife Acceptance Factor" is high and I'm having great fun. Hanging up on recognized telemarketers is great, the Callerid Superfecta works great, and I like getting the weather forecast from Allyson.

The port from Vonage completed today (I'm using Future-Nine as my primary provider)
so like I said - today is the day I took control of my VOIP.

(Running on an Intel Atom, with SPA-3102 to inferface legacy POTS (for 911), and SPA-1001 for the house phones. )
Jeff McDonough
 

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VoIP Provider built with PIAF

I've been involved in the telecom and provider industry for over 10 years and after dealing with solely proprietary solutions, I found that the cost of these are just barriers to entry for many people. I started playing with A@H and followed Nerd Vittles for quite some time (it became my asterisk bible). After learning and playing with the A2B solution and using it successfully for my other company GSMcall, I decided I wanted another entry into the marketplace. I then created IndiVoIP and made for it a target market of India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh. We're an A-Z carrier and thankful to the PIAF platform for having something stable to run on.

Anyone that wants to sign up, we have directions for Mobile Voip (Nokias), and even pre-configured fring download is available. Signups are always free, and for a limited time, we're offering a free deposit on your account for all PIAF family to try us out (and let us know of any issues).

Comments are welcome.

Again ... thank you to all those that put hard work and efforts into this nice distro.

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Our small public middle school in Washington, DC has to make every penny count. I'm in charge of our technology and its attached (meager) budget. This past summer we moved to a new and bigger building and needed to migrate our phone system. We had an existing NEC Aspire system with 15 extensions that worked just fine - nothing fancy - and it hooked up to a single POTS line.

At the new building we needed to double the size to 30 extensions, but as the Aspire system used VOIP it should just be a matter of buying the handsets and a little labor to configure them. Right?

$17,000. That's what they wanted to hookup the existing equipment that we moved over and add the 15 new extensions. I believe my response was "Hell no."

I'd wanted an excuse to setup an Asterisk server for awhile, but I had heard how complicated it was. School was close to opening, I had a lot of other things to take care of, so I needed the solution that was mostly likely to work the first time. I found PiaF then read up on the wiki and Nerd Vittles. I ordered a set of Aastra 57i's and a used Dell PowerEdge 2650. We decided to go "pure VOIP" for flexibility and signed up with Vitelity.com.

I followed the great step-by-step directions for PiaF. I wanted to set mine up inside a VM which added some complication, but I found lots of helpful other users in the forums that had documented their experiences before me.

Now we're 5 months in. The system has more capabilities than our old NECs, the sound quality is better, and it's easier to use. I had some problems with my server crashing, but I was able to rebuild it on different hardware and transfer our entire configuration in about an hour. Now everything is great. I love that we're implementing more open source tools, open standards, and aren't limited to vendor BS when we're ready to expand. Other schools thought we were "crazy" to setup our own system - now they want all the details to try and do it themselves.

The best part, of course, is that our whole setup was under $7K. That's a $10,000 savings. To translate that with regards to the school, that savings allowed us to buy and setup four desktop machines in each of ten classrooms. Now THAT is making a difference.

Thanks for the PiaF team and community!
 

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Hi

This is a great story, and exactly how all this should work. Did your new desktop machines have Linux on them as well ;-)

These are exactly the sort of stories that we want to see here. Keep them coming, and well done for taking the plunge and having a go at it. It is always scary when you do the first commercial install.

Joe
 

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You never know how things will work out

During the time of PBXIAF V 1.0, I had been working with Trixbox for about 6 months. By the time pbxiaf 1.1 came out, I had learned enough about the way Trixbox cant be updated to develop a healthy appreciation for the PBXIAF “compile on site, update as prudent” approach.

I happen to be a techno-nut – but that not withstanding; our small business was experiencing telephonic growing-pains. After 7 years in business, an opportunity to expand our private label help desk product was easily ready to overrun the terrible copper lines we had for telephone service.

Since it was obvious VoIP was the only way to go – we began to explore what was out there. Vonage was riding high, Packet8 and many other competitors all got us around the limited copper into the office, each one we looked at had their own special quirks. All of them were using Analog telephone adapters (ATA s) and either regular or slightly customized Analog phones.

We began a year of exploration that started with the BigGreenBox – hoping to learn enough about VOIP and this strange creature called FreePBX to be able to use it. But with time marching on, Packet8’s Virtual Office product was selected, and put into use in a 10 phone system.

Although pretty much always under development, the web application that was provided was a little twisted, but once you got over it way of looking at call flow – rudimentary ring groups could be arranged in such a way as to simulate queues, provided nor more than 8-10 callers were on hold. And so we went for a good year. We definitely used all our creativity to connect various IVR’s ($15/month each) to give the caller a good experience, but we were already clearly operating at the very limits of flexibility and capacity for the Packet8 system.

The average telephone bill during this period was approximately $380/month. This was about 1/3 of what copper lines and almost nothing in hardware ($1,000 in proprietary telephones/ATA’s.)

Then the balance was broken when Packet8 rather arbitrarily stopped supporting a type of IVR transfer that was crucial to our work flow. At the same moment, the unthinkable happened, and the help desk grew a little more. Less flexibility + even more demands for non achievable call flow changes was death knoll for packet8 at our office.

During this same time we had deployed several ISO’s of the GreenBox in the lab, and with the Field technicians….Several ISO’s. In a very short time. So many ISO's, so fast - and a complete reinstall to go with each one. Yikes. It had become apparent to me that my career would suddenly change from network engineering to “PBX Upgrade and reconfigure monkey” if we deployed that distribution. Also – the forums… Were unproductive and negative much of the time. There are ways to disagree and still remain civil. Then, I rediscovered Nerd Vittles. This was at the time of release of PBXIAF 1.1

The difference in the environment and team spirit – even when disagreements occur – is very palatable, and the community full of people who are so wonderfully giving of their experience. The difference in the distributions – well- they can be summed up in about 6 words. Ward Mundy, Tom King, and Joe Roper.

This trio has brought together a remarkable set of skills and disciplines that produced a really really good distribution. RPM based, so knuckleheads like me can follow simpler instructions. Updated, Compiled right on the box – and fully scripted. Security flaws get fixed in hours – sometimes minutes (when they find them – there’s been so FEW), not DAYS like the other guys. And all based on FreePBX – arguably the most evolved UI for managing Asterisk.

Together – they got stability, reliability, and repeatability, and decorated it with enough solid features and functions to be a platform whose feature function benefit points are all top notch. Linux, Asterisk, Mysql, apache, Text to speech (2 different flavors), voice reminders, wake up calls, weather reports, tide reports, email by phone, headlines by phone, and scripts that make it all go together just the way it has to be “stable and reliable”.

PBX In a Flash is a gift – an opportunity for our technical staff to learn a new area of our field, with the camaraderie of some genuine experts in the arena. We are 8 people, doing the work of 12 – just like a million small businesses. As an old network guy – learning a new skill has been tremendously exhilarating. (And this technology is so flexible; I stand to be exhilarated by learning new things for a long time to come!) The professional growth has been great for all of us.

Now, the money. Way back up in the top of this article, I told you the phone bill with Packet8 was on a good month $380. With barely the faculties we needed to do our professional best.

Today, thanks to PBXIAF, we run 6 queues every day, with tremendous customer – and client satisfaction. We use every part of the system – to provide our customers with the best telephone interaction experience they could get anywhere. While handling about 10% more traffic, and with far superior call handling and work flow support, our average phone bill is $120 month.

Heres the good part. With the $260 a month being saved, the company was able to afford to bring in group medical insurance for all the employees. Now how’s that for positively impacting 8 people every single day of their lives?

Ward, Tom, Joe – I could never have done it without you.:cheers2:

PS> The adventure isn’t over. In the last few weeks I have (again) begun to work with A2Billing – the only part of PBXIAF that I have been completely befuddled by from the beginning. The good news is – A2Billing its turning out to be just as amazing as PBXIAF is. Ill be writing some about how I made the trip from “I’ll NEVER figure this out” to “I Actually think I understand how to do this.”
 

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Great story. Now Nerd Vittles has something to publish to close out the year... with your permission, of course.
 

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Great story. Now Nerd Vittles has something to publish to close out the year... with your permission, of course.

Delighted you would ask. It'll be interesting to read the `reader's digest` version of my discourse. :clownb:
 

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