It's Soup: Incredible PBX 2

[Gotenks]

Ward, this is the first time I was aware that you dont support freePBX latest version 2.9. Are there any known consequences of doing the update?

Ward is saying this add-on does not support FreePBX v2.9. FreePBX 2.9 will run fine without this add-on but at the time all the modules were made for this flashy add-on, 2.9 didn't exist so obviously it's not made for that.

BTW I did get the older IncrediblePBX 2.0x script to install on top of FreePBX 2.9 before it got released officially. The current install script mucks up my upgraded v2.9 so horribly I just re-install the distro. This way I don't have to deal with the 'Symlink modules failed' issue.

 

[paulnye]

Is it Piaf or IncPBX that's incompatible with freePBX 2.9?

Is it Piaf, IncPBX or both that is incompatible with freePBX 2.9? I have seen the posts concerning 2.9, but is PiaF compatible?

 

[darmock]

Actually it depends. Some NON FPBX ORIGINATED addons that are currently used have problems with 2.9. I have heard a number of opinions why they don't work and there is a list of work arounds for these problem children.


SPEAKING GENERICALLY ABOUT ANY COMPONENT THAT IS PART OF OUR DISTRO NOT JUST FPBX

Several aspects that we consider when upgrading the base install is how stable is the individual component? Also how long has the particular release of the individual component been out?

For our distro it is a MAJOR thing when we upgrade a component as we try to use something that is stable in the long term. It does not matter what the component is as we apply these tests to each component we upgrade.

SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT FPBX WITH PIAF

It took a very long time for us to move from 2.5 to 2.8 hopefully the update to 2.9 won't be long.

So we install 2.8 with our payload files because it has a long and proven history and not because of anything else. Because we use 2.8 that is what we build our programs and addons for and that is what we support.

That being said if you feel like it then upgrade to 2.9. If you have problems with something specific then post it in a new thread. There are a number of fpbx programmers who have offered to help you with these problems. (thanks)

Best regards

Tom

 

[wardmundy]

Some of this goes back to the same debate we have from time to time with the Asterisk developers. Basically, many of these developers feel no responsibility to preserve the functioning of third party applications, even those that are used by hundreds of thousands of users. From their vantage point, that obligation falls squarely and solely on the third party developers.

There are a couple problems with that position. First, one of the cardinal rules of software development has always been: "You break it. You fix it. I break it. I fix it." Second, some of the third party developers are long since gone.

We have urged both the Asterisk and FreePBX developers to at least provide adequate documentation that explains what they've broken and what's been changed so that others can step in and fix these important third-party modules.

We're not talking about hundreds of third-party modules. We're talking about a handful. In the case of Asterisk, the most important ones are the text-to-speech engines such as Festival, Flite, and Cepstral which are key components in literally hundreds of business applications. In the case of FreePBX, there are three major third-party apps. At least one of these is used by almost everyone that uses FreePBX. These include the Google Voice GUI, CallerID Superfecta, and EndPoint Manager. Thankfully, we have Andrew Nagy to thank for fixing all 3 of them this time around. All three now work reliably in FreePBX 2.9.

This approach to software development unfortunately causes enormous heartburn in the business, medical, and government sectors. People that depend upon phone systems for their operations simply cannot risk losing communications because some programmer has a new, novel idea on how to make function calls.

Hope springs eternal, of course. Some of us continue to be believe that sooner or later we will get past this when folks realize that these development decisions have very real consequences insofar as acceptance and use of open source software in the business community is concerned. And it impacts sales of the commercial spin-offs of these products as well. Kinda reminds me of another timeless debate:

 

[dandy_don]

Ward,

Once again - Thanks!! I went back through the last two Nerd Vittles articles and realized that they don't lead one through installation of Incredible PBX 2.0 -- I went back and installed Incredible PBX 2.0 and really like the trunk configuration tool -- it fixed my Vitelity outbound problem!

I've got PIAF 1.8.6 installed, went through the "guru" version of Skype installation (this works in 1.8.4) but this failed on the same hardware with 1.8.6. I'm trying to work through this. However, in going back over the new Trunk configuration utility (very nice), there is a Skype custom trunk available. Does this mean that skype is available in a stock install of PIAF (say purple for example) and Incredible 2.0 without the need to go through the Skype installation procedures as shown in http://nerdvittles.com/?p=748 ?

Thanks!
Don

 

[wardmundy]

No. The Skype trunk actually is there to support the Skype install script which may indeed be broken again.

 

[grillovillegas]

So the skype script its broken again ??

 

[wardmundy]

It's on my list. Stay tuned.

 

[Severian]

CallerID requirement for password

Howdy,
I just installed PIAF 17563 red and ran the incrediblepbx2.x script. At the beginning of the script, it asks for my maint password, so CallerID will work. So, now I think I should change my passwords, as suggested. If I do that, will CallerID break? Do I need to put the maint password somewhere for it to continue.

 

[wardmundy]

The sequence is...

1. Run the Incredible PBX 2 installer and plug in the maint password you plan to use with FreePBX and CallerID Superfecta.

2. Run passwd-master and set the password to the same one you used in step #1 above.

 

[Severian]

The sequence is...

1. Run the Incredible PBX 2 installer and plug in the maint password you plan to use with FreePBX and CallerID Superfecta.

I already ran the Incredible PBX 2 installer. Does that mean I need to start over?

 

[sergiocesar]

incredible and POTS card

Just finished the install of purple 17571, and got it to work with my pots card a TDM400P. then installed incredible to find out all my config was wiped out. should have RTFM one would say.
but for what is worth all I had to do was this:
Before I installed incredible, I...
ran dahdi_genconf -vF
this will generate the config for freepbx

edit the dahdi-channels.conf I only have 2 fxo ch 1 and 2 and 2 fsx ch 3 and 4 so I commented ( everything and and left just this:
signalling=fxs_ks
callerid=asreceived
group=0
context=from-zaptel
channel => 1

signalling=fxs_ks
callerid=asreceived
group=0
context=from-zaptel
channel => 2

rebooted, created my 2 ZAP ext. added my 2 ZAP channel DIDs, my 2 trunks and my 2 inbound routes, my outbound routes as I would if I was using the zaptel drivers.

when the incredible install whipped all out, all I did was to edit again dahdi-channels.conf as above but I had to add
#include dahdi-channels.conf into the chan_dahdi.conf file.
reloaded everything and all worked again.

I hope this helps someone, I spent a good amount of time trying to read the MANY ways to get dahdi working.
perhaps someone can point me to a setup fully dahdi where I can add a dahdi ext and a dahdi trunk in free pbx, as of now all I see is No Unused DAHDi Channels Available when I try to add a dahdi ext.... more to learn...

 

[wardmundy]